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#742March 21, 20251:01:22

The Wildest Stories of Corporate Espionage We’ve Ever Heard

About This Episode

Shaan and Sam discuss the dramatic corporate espionage lawsuit between HR tech rivals Rippling and Deel, featuring stories of 'honeypots' and flushed phones. They also explore historical cases of industrial spying, from the British East India Company to the modern $32 billion acquisition of cybersecurity firm Wiz.

Episode Description

💰 Get the [free] Episode 689: Sam Parr ( https://x.com/theSamParr ) and Shaan Puri ( https://x.com/ShaanVP ) break down the craziest stories of corporate espionage in history.

Show Notes

  • 0:00Rippling vs Deel
  • 10:21The British East India Company
  • 17:11Oracle vs Microsoft
  • 21:28Coke vs. Pepsi
  • 24:14Uber vs. Waymo
  • 26:03U.S. Intellectual piracy
  • 28:10Wiz sells for $32B
  • 39:40A case for Glassdoor
  • 45:54Marc Lore's new thing
  • 51:52Money, Status, Power

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Key Takeaways

1

In high-stakes legal situations, avoid 'spoliation of evidence' by never deleting messages; the act of destroying data often carries harsher penalties than the original misconduct.

2

Utilize 'calendar density' as a reliable leading indicator for scaling; when sales representatives' calendars are consistently full of demos, it is a definitive signal to hire more headcount in that territory.

3

Build 'reciprocal networks' where industry decision-makers (like CISOs) have a financial stake in the startups they buy from, creating a high-velocity feedback loop and guaranteed product-market fit.

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